missions problems

[jusefd]

hi guys, long time, no see (or writing in this case )
anyway i'm the basic missionscripter for BFM mod, i joined them with no expertise in missions and i learned from scratch by experimenting ( alot) and i finally made missions, with some help of my dear old friends here at gizmo studios, but now i'm stuck at a problem, i only could get the bartender to give missions, i think something went wrong making the systems. but that isnt the problem, the problem is i want to make advanced missions like kill the Battleship inputted in a kill the leader missions, but i have no clue how to do that or make new formations and put them in action, please someone help me im doing this for 3 straight months and nothing found, maybe you can?

[Gibbon]

First things first, lets deal with only the bartender giving missions. This has nothing to do with how you built your system. Everything you need to fix this will be in the MBASES.ini.

Using manhattan as an example, here's the entry for the Liberty Navy,

[BaseFaction]
faction = li_n_grp <------------- Faction Name
weight = 13 <------------- Higher the number, more chance they will offer a mission
offers_missions = true <----------- Pretty obvious
mission_type = DestroyMission, 0.000000, 0.112387, 30 <------- Where you define the payout and chance of getting a mission
npc = li0101_lnavy_001_f <--------- Defined npc's
npc = li0101_lnavy_002_m
npc = li0101_lnavy_003_f

You must define npc's to give out missions for them to be able to do so, this means two entries, the one above and this one here,

[GF_NPC]
nickname = li0101_lnavy_001_f
body = li_female_elite_body
head = pl_female1_head
lefthand = benchmark_female_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_female_hand_right
individual_name = 220007
affiliation = li_n_grp
voice = rvp511
misn = DestroyMission, 0.000000, 0.112387 <------------ Must add this line for the npc to give out a mission
room = bar

Try that and let me know what happens

[jusefd]

ty gibbon at atlantis, the missions work, but what about board missions they are main issue now, i knew how to give those bloody npc's missions also bartender and those stuff but board missions never succeeded

this is mbases.ini for atlantis

[MBase]
nickname = SG05_01_Base
local_faction = li_p_grp
diff = 1           <-------------- changed it to 22 and 38 but no different
msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_base_SG05_01_Base

[MVendor]
num_offers = 2, 4 <--------------- changed that too but nothing

[BaseFaction]
faction = li_p_grp
weight = 100
offers_missions = true
misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000
npc = sg0501_001_m
npc = sg0501_002_m
npc = sg0501_003_m
npc = sg0501_004_m
npc = sg0501_005_m

[GF_NPC]
nickname = SG0501_fix_bartender
body = li_bartender_body
head = br_bartender_head
lefthand = benchmark_male_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_male_hand_right
individual_name = 244617
affiliation = li_p_grp
voice = rvp101
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 131309
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 131311
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 131312
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 131313
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 131314
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 131319
rumor_type2 = mission_01b_loaded, freetime_01_02, 1, 393439
rumor_type2 = freetime_01_02, mission_02_loaded, 1, 393440
rumor_type2 = freetime_01_02, mission_02_loaded, 1, 393441
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393442
rumor_type2 = freetime_01_02, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393573
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393574
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_loaded, 1, 393575
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393577
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_loaded, 1, 393578
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393579
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393580
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_02_accepted, 1, 393581
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, freetime_02_03, 1, 393583
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, freetime_02_03, 1, 393584
rumor_type2 = mission_02_accepted, freetime_02_03, 1, 393586
rumor_type2 = mission_03_loaded, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393591
rumor_type2 = freetime_03_04, mission_04_loaded, 1, 393594
rumor_type2 = freetime_03_04, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393600
rumor_type2 = mission_04_loaded, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393603
rumor_type2 = mission_04_loaded, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393604
rumor_type2 = mission_04_loaded, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393605
rumor_type2 = mission_03_loaded, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393606
rumor_type2 = freetime_03_04, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393607
rumor_type2 = mission_02_loaded, mission_04_accepted, 1, 393648
rumor_type2 = base_0_rank, mission_04_loaded, 1, 393484
rumor_type2 = base_0_rank, mission_04_loaded, 1, 393383
rumor_type2 = freetime_01_02, mission_02_loaded, 1, 393649
misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000

[GF_NPC]
nickname = SG0501_fix_ship
body = li_male_elite_body
head = rh_hassler_head
lefthand = benchmark_male_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_male_hand_right
individual_name = 244620
affiliation = li_n_grp
voice = rvp111

[GF_NPC]
nickname = SG0501_fix_trader
body = li_male_elite_body
head = ge_male3_head
lefthand = benchmark_male_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_male_hand_right
individual_name = 244618
affiliation = li_n_grp
voice = rvp101

[GF_NPC]
nickname = SG0501_fix_weaponsdealer
body = li_male_elite_body
head = li_rockford_head
lefthand = benchmark_male_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_male_hand_right
individual_name = 244619
affiliation = li_n_grp
voice = rvp111

[GF_NPC]
nickname = sg0501_005_m
body = pi_orillion_body
head = benchmark_male_head
lefthand = benchmark_male_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_male_hand_right
individual_name = 590445
affiliation = li_p_grp
voice = rvp101
misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000
room = bar
bribe = li_p_grp, 10000, 16100
bribe = fc_u_grp, 10000, 16100
rumor = base_0_rank, mission_end, 1, 590331

[GF_NPC]
nickname = sg0501_004_m
body = sc_female1_body
head = br_karina_head_gen
lefthand = benchmark_female_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_female_hand_right
individual_name = 590443
affiliation = li_p_grp
voice = rvp140
misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000
room = bar
bribe = li_p_grp, 10000, 16100
bribe = fc_u_grp, 10000, 16100

[GF_NPC]
nickname = sg0501_003_m
body = pi_orillion_body
head = sh_male1_head
lefthand = male_hand_left_left
righthand = male_hand_left_right
individual_name = 590444
affiliation = li_n_grp
voice = rvp140
misn = DestroyMission, 0.000000, 100.000000
room = bar
bribe = li_p_grp, 10000, 16100
bribe = fc_u_grp, 10000, 16100

[GF_NPC]
nickname = sg0501_002_m
body = li_male_elite_body
head = pl_male1_head
lefthand = benchmark_male_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_male_hand_right
individual_name = 590446
affiliation = li_p_grp
voice = rvp126
misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000
room = bar
bribe = li_p_grp, 10000, 16100
bribe = fc_u_grp, 10000, 16100

[GF_NPC]
nickname = sg0501_001_m
body = sc_female1_body
head = br_karina_head_gen
lefthand = benchmark_female_hand_left
righthand = benchmark_female_hand_right
individual_name = 590447
affiliation = li_p_grp
voice = rvp126
misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000
room = bar
bribe = fc_u_grp, 10000, 16100
bribe = li_p_grp, 10000, 16100

[MRoom]
nickname = bar
character_density = 4
fixture = SG0501_fix_bartender, Zs/NPC/Bartender/01/A/Stand, scripts\vendors\li_bartender_fidget.thn, bartender

[MRoom]
nickname = Deck
character_density = 3
fixture = SG0501_fix_ship, Zs/NPC/Shipdealer/01/A/Stand, scripts\vendors\li_shipdealer_fidget.thn, ShipDealer
fixture = SG0501_fix_trader, Zs/NPC/Trader/01/A/Stand, scripts\vendors\li_commtrader_fidget.thn, trader
fixture = SG0501_fix_weaponsdealer, Zs/NPC/Equipment/01/A/Stand, scripts\vendors\li_equipdealer_fidget.thn, Equipment

[Gibbon]

In the BASEFACTION section you have this line,

misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000

Its missing the pecentage number at the end so should read

misn = DestroyMission, 73.051361, 100.000000, 100

This assumes that your level one missions are set to pay that much, try the default setting for now from vanilla, just to see if it works (assuming you're still using the default Diff2Money.ini) which is 0.000000, 0.112387

[jusefd]

still doesnt work, Npc give missions, board say you need to be friendlier after i did that, i was 90+ but before i posted this it said, no mission availible this time please come back later
i think it has something to do with faction configuration

[Gibbon]

Are the vignette zones too far away? I fthey are a real distance from the base, then that won't help either

[jusefd]

a couple of months ago you and several other members recommended me this
gizmostudios.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=genmodboard&action=display&thread=46

but you said to me 4 times unlawful, unlawful and then i did all possible combitations just to be sure, like 4 u, l 4 l, l 4 l, u 4 u, u
and i place 2 population zone around them
the vinigette zones are only 20K away from the base where im testing from

PS. just a reminder that missions work at NPC's they give them succesfully, there just arnt board missions, they need to work, the rest is fine

SCRATCH THAT LAST POST, THEY WORKED, GIBBON YOU ARE TRULLY A GOD a real goddamn **swearing** angel, they just **swearing** worked i'm so happy, if i can do anything for u? just say it mate

[Gibbon]

As mentioned before the board missions are defined in this line,

[BaseFaction]
faction = fc_sfm_grp
weight = 100
offers_missions = true
mission_type = DestroyMission, 0.205129, 0.480486, 100

That's the bit you need to get working because if the npc's are giving out missions then its this bit that's screwed somehow

** EDIT **

Well done, glad you got them working lol

[jusefd]

1st. actually you have done everything, i just found the error but
are you still in the mood of helping me with 1 more thing?
its the reason why i became or tried to become a missionscripter
the word says it already to script missions, custom missions
or even like kill the battleship in assasin missions would already be alot, well different types of missions work ,assasin , kill cargo, search and destroy, but the formations you encounter are very... crappy like if you know a bit last time i was testing it was 7 wraith darts against a deadalus with alot of ancient chairs ( so alot of drones)
well how can i put like 2 cruisers and a hive in it?
or at ori, kill the ori satalite because base is freelancer style when you have that missions
please, i started at gizmo 4 months ago, i posted message that missions wouldnt work, then i had 2 weeks of vacations and i spended it on freaking missions, then i managed to get them work on npc's, then BFM 3.0 came out a couple of days ago, and they worked on NPC's ( missions, actually npc's showed up in bar)
well then i came here again and a wonderfull guy ( i think) helped me and missions worked (board missions)
well but before BFM3 came out i was trying to figure out a way to change missions formations or to change missions but i couldnt get that doing... gibbon, if this works ill do anything for ya,
BEER'S ON ME

[Gibbon]

I've seen this done somewhere but i can't for the life of me remember where. There is a way to do this... somehow. The missions against bases is an easy one to change if you're using custom base models as this would work if you're mod is a total conversion mod. The thing about changing the base models for missions is that its a global setting so all missions everywhere would be like that. The other custom stuff i'm not sure about

[jusefd]

well about those bases? i searched every ini file and didnt came up with something that pointed out mission or something, could it be other file? ( BTW what is .THN, i tried to search the program u use FLED Thorn on Lancersreactor and didnt find it)

[Gibbon]

THN files are scripts to create animation on bases, intro screens etc. This means you can make your own if you're familiar with LUA scripting or modify current ones to change ships flying round on planetscapes and so on. FLEDThorn is available on Lancers Reactor in the downloads section. There is a huge download called Tools and its in that file.

The file you're looking to edit for changing the bases in missions is the KillableSolars.ini which sits in the DATA\RANDOMMISSIONS folder. To change a base, define it in Solararch and then change the archetype = line in one of the mission entries in KillableSolars.ini and put your custom base name in there. Make sure it's the same name as the one you put into Solararch

[jusefd]

i downloaded every file in tools, and didnt find it...
about bases, ill test it later but just 1 thing, board missions do not offer kill base missions

[jusefd]

Ori sattalite isnt a base, but that should work right?
and can i make like because ori probably wont shoot their own sattalite so what about that, can i put like ori and wraith to destroy ancient satalite? (sry im speaking so much stargaty )

[Gibbon]

Jul 19, 2008 13:50:49 GMT jusefd said:

i downloaded every file in tools, and didnt find it...
about bases, ill test it later but just 1 thing, board missions do not offer kill base missions

To get those working, you need to add the faction offering the missions to the relevant section in VignetteParams.ini. Look for missions against SOLARS because those are normally destroy the base type missions.

To your second question on this, i don't see why not as long as you do the above

FLEDThorn ----> frm222.free.fr/Freelancer/