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Post by getbusylivin on Jun 2, 2011 19:30:46 GMT
No matter what I do every time I clik on new game it starts to load then crashes to desktop. I activated the 1.06 mod then the OSP one and it will not work. If I load one of the other smaller mods they work fine.. Please help and keep in mind that I am not an experienced modder...
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Post by Cadfael on Jun 3, 2011 8:51:09 GMT
Does the online multiplayer work?
I tried a new game and it works fine.
Have you switched off the 3d sound in the main options menu?
That always has been buggy in this game.
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Post by Gibbon on Jun 3, 2011 8:53:25 GMT
Hiya and welcome. Sorry to hear of your problems activating the open single player version. I've just tried it and it works fine so we need to find out why yours doesn't.
Have you been playing any versions of singleplayer before you tried the Phoenix mod?
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Post by getbusylivin on Jun 3, 2011 23:49:43 GMT
I really appreciate all the help..I am not using multiplayer.. Just single player against the computer. I will try switching off the 3 d sound and see what that does. I have only played the original game from the cd then tried this Phoenix Mod.. This is the first and only mod I have tried. should I try online multiplayer to see if it will work there first..? I am assuming I need both of the Phoenix mods activated at the same time.. that is the way I have been doing it so far..
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Post by getbusylivin on Jun 4, 2011 0:00:25 GMT
Just tried the 3d sound thing and no luck still crashing..
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Post by Gibbon on Jun 4, 2011 7:56:30 GMT
To play multiplayer you would actually only need the main mod activated.
Now back to your SP issue. A common way to fix this now i know what you've been up to is to delete your single player files. WHAT i hear you cry?
A little background information for you. When you start a game of FL for the first time, two folders are automatically created in
C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR PC\My Documents\My Games\Freelancer\Accts
These are the "Multiplayer" folder, which tracks your movements on various servers you goto and keeps your account information there, and the "Singleplayer" folder which tracks your progress in singleplayer.
Here lies the problem, the Singleplayer folder doesn't know if you've tried a different mod or not, so any information within may and will, conflict with a Singleplayer game saved from a different mod. Only solution if you want to keep any player files from say normal FL is to make a backup of this Singleplayer folder, rename it to something obvious like MY SINGLEPLAYER BACKUP folder, and then delete the original Singleplayer folder. A new one will be created the next time you start FL.
The main reason for doing this are mods normally add new ships, systems, equipment, commodities etc and the Singleplayer player file will hold this data. When you start a different mod and the game tries to access your player file, it will try to look for items it can't find and crash. Only solution for Singlplayer games if you're playing a bunch of different mods is to have a seperate folder for each mod, that way you won't lose your player files. You must remember to rename any Singleplayer folder that uses data from other mods to Singleplayer when you want to use it.
Remember to backup the Phoenix created singleplayer folder if you want to try something else. Hope that helps.
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Post by Cadfael on Jun 7, 2011 11:54:07 GMT
That sounds like a probable cause for this.
and if that doesnt work, you can always try to reinstall freelancer and than activate the mod.
what version of the modmanager do you use btw? because the latest was reported to be a bit buggy. Theres a topic on the forum about what version you should use. Or else Gibbon knows what version, im not at my own pc atm so i can't check it right now.
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Post by cwallace134 on Dec 2, 2011 16:54:50 GMT
Phoenix 1.07 caused Freelancer to crash, so I deactivated it with FLMM 1.4 and it still caused FL to crash.
I deleted the mod, and it still caused FL to crash. I deleted FLMM and reinstalled FL and the game worked.
I installed FLMM without Phoenix and the FL startup screen still shows the Phoenix 1.07 screen and then crashes.
Since I've manually deleted everything on my computer that relates to Phoenix, where could the program be getting this Phoenix screen from? I'm completely bewildered.
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Post by Gibbon on Dec 2, 2011 19:15:03 GMT
Sorry for your woes but i can assure you there is nothing wrong with Phoenix, at least regarding activation. You say you're using FLMM 1.4, there is your problem right there, it's incompatible with Phoenix. I've said this a 1000 times, plus it's in the readme and in FLMM when you put the mod in, ONLY USE VERSION 1.3 because FLMM 1.4 deals with script files differently and screws them up. What you have now is leftover code in your FL directory that FLMM 1.4 doesn't remove. That version should be burnt!!
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Post by cwallace134 on Dec 3, 2011 2:32:56 GMT
Sorry for your woes but i can assure you there is nothing wrong with Phoenix, at least regarding activation. You say you're using FLMM 1.4, there is your problem right there, it's incompatible with Phoenix. I've said this a 1000 times, plus it's in the readme and in FLMM when you put the mod in, ONLY USE VERSION 1.3 because FLMM 1.4 deals with script files differently and screws them up. What you have now is leftover code in your FL directory that FLMM 1.4 doesn't remove. That version should be burnt!! Thank you for the quick reply. I should have mentioned this before, but the problem first occurred on FLMM 1.3. I deleted it and installed version 1.4 in hopes it would correct the issue. Either way, I would have expected this "ghost file" to disappear upon completely uninstalling and reinstalling FL. Any clue as to which file initiates the initial Phoenix 1.07 screen upon startup? I might know what to look for that way. Thanks again for all the help! |
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Post by Gibbon on Dec 3, 2011 8:36:52 GMT
A couple of other things that might help as well. Do you use FLMM as it should be used? By that i mean if you use different mods, after deactivation, do you restore backups from the TOOLS menu, which you have to do every time you deactivate a mod? If you don't then the data from the mod get left behind in your FL folder. If you then activate another mod, this will overwrite some of the previous mod and all you are left with is a pile of poo for code that will crash any chance it gets.
In answer to your query,
\DATA\INTERFACE\INTRO\IMAGES
is where the loading screen images are kept.
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Post by cwallace134 on Dec 7, 2011 3:16:33 GMT
A couple of other things that might help as well. Do you use FLMM as it should be used? By that i mean if you use different mods, after deactivation, do you restore backups from the TOOLS menu, which you have to do every time you deactivate a mod? If you don't then the data from the mod get left behind in your FL folder. If you then activate another mod, this will overwrite some of the previous mod and all you are left with is a pile of poo for code that will crash any chance it gets. In answer to your query, \DATA\INTERFACE\INTRO\IMAGESis where the loading screen images are kept. Unfortunately, the answer to all of the above was yes. I realize now that the original crash was almost certainly due to this. I've uninstalled both the original game and the mod manager from my hard drive, power cycled, and installed just FL by itself, power cycled again and I'm still getting a "Phoenix 1.07" startup screen and a complete crash. Do I need a programmer, or an exorcist? ;-) I'd like to get this cleared up so I can install and play FL, hopefully with the Phoenix mod as well! |
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Post by Gibbon on Dec 7, 2011 8:52:56 GMT
One other thing that maybe you haven't tried. In My Documents\My Games, FL creates a folder called Freelancer that stores all your player information for SP and MP. Delete this. A new one will be generated if it's not there next time you start a game.
Also with regard to deletion of FL, sometimes it pays to check the uninstaller has done it's job as i've had to delete the game folder manually a few times myself. So also delete C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Freelancer or the whole Microsoft Games folder if it's the only Microsoft game you have installed. Then reboot which should clear the registry and then reinstall.
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Post by cwallace134 on Dec 8, 2011 6:13:19 GMT
One other thing that maybe you haven't tried. In My Documents\My Games, FL creates a folder called Freelancer that stores all your player information for SP and MP. Delete this. A new one will be generated if it's not there next time you start a game. Also with regard to deletion of FL, sometimes it pays to check the uninstaller has done it's job as i've had to delete the game folder manually a few times myself. So also delete C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Freelancer or the whole Microsoft Games folder if it's the only Microsoft game you have installed. Then reboot which should clear the registry and then reinstall. Okay, I did everything above and found one small leftover file which I deleted. Rebooted and then reinstalled. The game now runs fine if I start it from the disk menu. If I start the game from the desktop icon, the "Phoenix 1.07" startup screen appears and FL crashes. I've run both scenarios through multiple times with the same result. Any ideas? |
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Post by Crassie on Dec 8, 2011 15:43:36 GMT
One other thing that maybe you haven't tried. In My Documents\My Games, FL creates a folder called Freelancer that stores all your player information for SP and MP. Delete this. A new one will be generated if it's not there next time you start a game. Also with regard to deletion of FL, sometimes it pays to check the uninstaller has done it's job as i've had to delete the game folder manually a few times myself. So also delete C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Freelancer or the whole Microsoft Games folder if it's the only Microsoft game you have installed. Then reboot which should clear the registry and then reinstall. Okay, I did everything above and found one small leftover file which I deleted. Rebooted and then reinstalled. The game now runs fine if I start it from the disk menu. If I start the game from the desktop icon, the "Phoenix 1.07" startup screen appears and FL crashes. I've run both scenarios through multiple times with the same result. Any ideas? Did the desktop icon disapear when you uninstalled Freelancer? If it didn't i suggest uninstall Freelancer again, delete all folders as mentioned by Gibbon, Delete any shortcuts to Freelancer. Reboot and if your familiar with CCleaner run that. Then install freelancer again. If your not familiar with CCleaner, the program cleans your computer, both files that are not used anymore and also checks the registry on the pc to see if any keys in there are no longer used. It can be downloaded here: www.piriform.com/ccleaner/Crassie |
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